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Conversation started December 4, 2014
Ada Avetist
12/4, 11:44am
Ada Avetist
Hi everybody,
I am writing to thank you for accepting my gift T and for producing and sharing data (photo, video, comments and likes).
As you are the first holder of the gift I decided to convey to you that JK_NET is developing an engagement in positive resistance, that is not a discussion of opposition or reaction to something, but an affirmative and positive empowerment through the use of cryptographic language and activities.
These function as a reminder of the 'capacity to resistance' to be an intrinsic quality of being. (I think of it as a sort of natural capacity I've discovered as a teenager by cryptic behaviour that diverted from whatever “regular patterns” there are in adult lifes, or writing cryptic lover letters in order to conceal my real emotions.)
I wonder through which activities this capacity is expressed or embodied.
I believe dancing is such an activity. It fosters connectivity between bodies/ minds and creates an exchange between people through affect and bonding.
I be happy to hear through which activities you have discovered your 'capacity to resistance.' And if you think its possible to resist without struggle?
Gab Ri Ela
12/4, 11:49am
Gab Ri Ela
I wore my t-gift in the yoga class
Derzu Campos
12/4, 12:15pm
Derzu Campos
I do zen meditation and I find it as the most pacific way (for me) of resisting the artificial rythm of life we are encouraged to live now... When I meditate I find my own natural rythm and my mind inmediately follows and relaxes
Julia Gorostidi
12/4, 1:03pm
Julia Gorostidi
I guess I lost a bit of those capacities since a few years but: I used to go in the garden or somewhere alone and scream till my head hurts (i still do that with my pillow sometimes), I also used to listen to the sounds of my organs (mostly stomach) with the stethoscope of my brother (he was studying medicine) till I had the feeling I'm inside and not outside anymore, masturbate, breath with a specific rythm but it has to work quick otherwise I get angry. Ok have to go I send you more later
Francis Almendárez
12/4, 1:22pm
Francis Almendárez
Definitely dancing but I also like to go for long walks in no particular direction as well as running and hiking. So basically movement of the body until I sweat it off.
Inda Perla Ortega
12/4, 2:16pm
Inda Perla Ortega
uhm, resistance seems to have been my main drive along the last many years. a strong drive of questioning everything (instead of taking for granted) in the search for the 'nude' forms of the world around me. working with living plants seems to provide contact with a somewhat primal realm that is utterly simple and sincere in contrast with the purely human. meeting strangers for sex encounters could also provide a glance into that primal aspect, specially when the contact is based in body language instead of words, which in some way its resonant with the shoplifting of luxury goods from corporate shops. another activity is to protect myself from media realities by avoiding watching or listening to any news emitted by information channels, in that sense i know of the world-wide reality only by what friends have to narrate on those news, always second hand information. another activity is to take long walks or bike rides late at night, when the crowds are hidden away in their dwelling spaces. a last one is the urge to break the logic of spaces where crowd behavior entails a certain degree of numbness, i do that by using disturbing elements such as confusing flirtation in cramped spaces such as the tube, or lipstick with beard around hetero normative bodies, or any other minor gestures involving a degree of humorist wrongness.
Frederique Pisuisse
12/4, 2:32pm
Frederique Pisuisse
Having secrets, walking in the dark alone without a narative, making art without the talking, having sex and dessolving; the act of dessolving and not knowing if its true and not caring, choosing to be not a nihilist, taking care of yourself and others (yes, that is a jerry springer quote); listening to your body when it is tired, being honest even when it hurts, aking questions like these.
Dana Eitches
12/4, 4:22pm
Dana Eitches
Jerrrrrrrrry springer!
??
Julia Gorostidi
12/4, 6:09pm
Julia Gorostidi
ok here some more: avoiding gossip, concentrate on the further sound that you can still hear without listenning to the rest. cook for a lot of people and only stop when I am really really tired, drive alone in the mountain without any specific goal but just because the road have big curve , go to the beach very early in the morning. Having sex obviously. Cleaning dirty places till the last little corner, taking baths, pressing on my eyes and concentrate on the forms and colors that this create. Looking at the sun just to sneeze again and again (mini orgasm)
Carl Gent
12/4, 8:44pm
Carl Gent
Amazing list going on here
Carl Gent
12/4, 8:55pm
Carl Gent
Resistance. As a teenager it would be walking around my dreary seaside town smiling violently at anyone I could, especially the miserable. Working in a stationers at fifteen sixteen and forcing myself to respond to the older customers in a flirtatious manner. Avoiding news via papers etc is a really good one. Avoiding hype and gossip generally, or at least belaying them... Assessing things a good year or so after everybody else is into them to avoid hype and then, sometimes, being as ecstatic about these books records as everyone else was. Still listening to albums and buying CDs. Not A technophobia but certainly a slowness. Walking obviously, gigantic drives with minimal reasons. Inscribing different narratives in my bones. Being straight and wearing nail varnish / girls clothes in as casual a manner as possible. Demanding gender balance in my heterosexual relationship (I'm still waiting for MY engagement ring). Giving money away is a big one. Especially when I'm at the edge. Dancing definitely. Dancing with eyes closed. Manual labour without financial or health-based gain. Swimming even though I can't really swim. Really fucking loud and punishing music...
Carl Gent
12/4, 9:01pm
Carl Gent
Reconsecration.
12/4/14Simo Monsi left the conversation.
December 5, 2014
Josephine de Vliegmachine
12/5, 3:33pm
Josephine de Vliegmachine
Hey guys, great stuff
For me an obvious one is going to death metal concerts and losing myself completely in the mosh pit, until it hurts so much that it doesn't hurt anymore, submitting myself to the force of others, crowdsurfing, falling down, getting picked up by strangers. It's totally physical and stops thought, like sex, or repetitive manual labour. Hitch hiking is another big one, allowing myself to trust total strangers. I love driving long distances and making trips, travelling. Walking around and getting lost on purpose. Running. Dancing. Singing. I had a period where I insisted on greeting everybody I saw in my street. As a kid, when I went to sleep I would lie in bed with my arms folded over my chest, like dead people, in case I would die in my sleep so I'd already be in the right position. Not out of fear but more out of acceptance. I took a vow not to read any more news ever again when I was 15, because it depressed the hell out of me and because I realized this is also second hand information presented as the objective truth. Reading big and time consuming books, mostly fiction. Writing postcards or letters.
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Ada Avetist
12/4, 11:44am
Ada Avetist
Hi everybody,
I am writing to thank you for accepting my gift T and for producing and sharing data (photo, video, comments and likes).
As you are the first holder of the gift I decided to convey to you that JK_NET is developing an engagement in positive resistance, that is not a discussion of opposition or reaction to something, but an affirmative and positive empowerment through the use of cryptographic language and activities.
These function as a reminder of the 'capacity to resistance' to be an intrinsic quality of being. (I think of it as a sort of natural capacity I've discovered as a teenager by cryptic behaviour that diverted from whatever “regular patterns” there are in adult lifes, or writing cryptic lover letters in order to conceal my real emotions.)
I wonder through which activities this capacity is expressed or embodied.
I believe dancing is such an activity. It fosters connectivity between bodies/ minds and creates an exchange between people through affect and bonding.
I be happy to hear through which activities you have discovered your 'capacity to resistance.' And if you think its possible to resist without struggle?
Gab Ri Ela
12/4, 11:49am
Gab Ri Ela
I wore my t-gift in the yoga class
Derzu Campos
12/4, 12:15pm
Derzu Campos
I do zen meditation and I find it as the most pacific way (for me) of resisting the artificial rythm of life we are encouraged to live now... When I meditate I find my own natural rythm and my mind inmediately follows and relaxes
Julia Gorostidi
12/4, 1:03pm
Julia Gorostidi
I guess I lost a bit of those capacities since a few years but: I used to go in the garden or somewhere alone and scream till my head hurts (i still do that with my pillow sometimes), I also used to listen to the sounds of my organs (mostly stomach) with the stethoscope of my brother (he was studying medicine) till I had the feeling I'm inside and not outside anymore, masturbate, breath with a specific rythm but it has to work quick otherwise I get angry. Ok have to go I send you more later
Francis Almendárez
12/4, 1:22pm
Francis Almendárez
Definitely dancing but I also like to go for long walks in no particular direction as well as running and hiking. So basically movement of the body until I sweat it off.
Inda Perla Ortega
12/4, 2:16pm
Inda Perla Ortega
uhm, resistance seems to have been my main drive along the last many years. a strong drive of questioning everything (instead of taking for granted) in the search for the 'nude' forms of the world around me. working with living plants seems to provide contact with a somewhat primal realm that is utterly simple and sincere in contrast with the purely human. meeting strangers for sex encounters could also provide a glance into that primal aspect, specially when the contact is based in body language instead of words, which in some way its resonant with the shoplifting of luxury goods from corporate shops. another activity is to protect myself from media realities by avoiding watching or listening to any news emitted by information channels, in that sense i know of the world-wide reality only by what friends have to narrate on those news, always second hand information. another activity is to take long walks or bike rides late at night, when the crowds are hidden away in their dwelling spaces. a last one is the urge to break the logic of spaces where crowd behavior entails a certain degree of numbness, i do that by using disturbing elements such as confusing flirtation in cramped spaces such as the tube, or lipstick with beard around hetero normative bodies, or any other minor gestures involving a degree of humorist wrongness.
Frederique Pisuisse
12/4, 2:32pm
Frederique Pisuisse
Having secrets, walking in the dark alone without a narative, making art without the talking, having sex and dessolving; the act of dessolving and not knowing if its true and not caring, choosing to be not a nihilist, taking care of yourself and others (yes, that is a jerry springer quote); listening to your body when it is tired, being honest even when it hurts, aking questions like these.
Dana Eitches
12/4, 4:22pm
Dana Eitches
Jerrrrrrrrry springer!
??
Julia Gorostidi
12/4, 6:09pm
Julia Gorostidi
ok here some more: avoiding gossip, concentrate on the further sound that you can still hear without listenning to the rest. cook for a lot of people and only stop when I am really really tired, drive alone in the mountain without any specific goal but just because the road have big curve , go to the beach very early in the morning. Having sex obviously. Cleaning dirty places till the last little corner, taking baths, pressing on my eyes and concentrate on the forms and colors that this create. Looking at the sun just to sneeze again and again (mini orgasm)
Carl Gent
12/4, 8:44pm
Carl Gent
Amazing list going on here
Carl Gent
12/4, 8:55pm
Carl Gent
Resistance. As a teenager it would be walking around my dreary seaside town smiling violently at anyone I could, especially the miserable. Working in a stationers at fifteen sixteen and forcing myself to respond to the older customers in a flirtatious manner. Avoiding news via papers etc is a really good one. Avoiding hype and gossip generally, or at least belaying them... Assessing things a good year or so after everybody else is into them to avoid hype and then, sometimes, being as ecstatic about these books records as everyone else was. Still listening to albums and buying CDs. Not A technophobia but certainly a slowness. Walking obviously, gigantic drives with minimal reasons. Inscribing different narratives in my bones. Being straight and wearing nail varnish / girls clothes in as casual a manner as possible. Demanding gender balance in my heterosexual relationship (I'm still waiting for MY engagement ring). Giving money away is a big one. Especially when I'm at the edge. Dancing definitely. Dancing with eyes closed. Manual labour without financial or health-based gain. Swimming even though I can't really swim. Really fucking loud and punishing music...
Carl Gent
12/4, 9:01pm
Carl Gent
Reconsecration.
12/4/14Simo Monsi left the conversation.
December 5, 2014
Josephine de Vliegmachine
12/5, 3:33pm
Josephine de Vliegmachine
Hey guys, great stuff
For me an obvious one is going to death metal concerts and losing myself completely in the mosh pit, until it hurts so much that it doesn't hurt anymore, submitting myself to the force of others, crowdsurfing, falling down, getting picked up by strangers. It's totally physical and stops thought, like sex, or repetitive manual labour. Hitch hiking is another big one, allowing myself to trust total strangers. I love driving long distances and making trips, travelling. Walking around and getting lost on purpose. Running. Dancing. Singing. I had a period where I insisted on greeting everybody I saw in my street. As a kid, when I went to sleep I would lie in bed with my arms folded over my chest, like dead people, in case I would die in my sleep so I'd already be in the right position. Not out of fear but more out of acceptance. I took a vow not to read any more news ever again when I was 15, because it depressed the hell out of me and because I realized this is also second hand information presented as the objective truth. Reading big and time consuming books, mostly fiction. Writing postcards or letters.
Seen by Dana, Carl, 11 more